Alan, Your ebook saved us $800 on our
new carpet purchase! Here's how!
I just purchased your book the other day
and am thankful I did. However, my wife and I went to a couple of retailers
yesterday and are now in awe of the prices for a Frieze carpet. Either your
price estimates are years out of date or the info from your book will
probably save us over $600 for a 32 square yard family room carpet. I was
expecting to pay ~ $40 per sq. yard for top quality nylon Frieze style
carpet, an 8-pound pad, and carpet removal and installation. As you
mentioned in your book, many retailers use the square foot method (we went
to 3 and they all use square foot measurements). The best price we found for
carpets we liked is $6.25/sq ft to $7.60/sq ft. This includes delivery, pad,
install, and lift/removal of existing carpet. Transition bars are included
with the $7.60 carpet and we need 14 feet. The carpets we looked at (I have
samples in my hands now) are;
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Queen Carpet (Shaw), Style: San Giovanni
(S) Q0801, 100% Anso Caress Continuous Filament Nylon, R2X stain and soil
resistance, SoftBac Platinum backing, and 10 year Texturegard warranty.
Cost ~$7.00/sq ft. That’s $63.00/sq yd!!
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Masland Carpets and Rugs (Belize),
9380-613 Native, 100% DuPont Continuous Filament Tactesse nylon,
Stainmaster Xtralife carpet, Textured cut pile. $7.60/sq ft or a whopping
$68.40/sq yd.
Anyway, you get the idea. We really
like the carpets above, but can you clarify if the prices above are
exorbitant or normal for the brand and style? Your book states we really
shouldn’t pay more than ~$40/ sq. yd for a very good quality nylon carpet.
Are the carpets above top-of-the-line or are your quotes a few years old?
You highly recommend finding a carpet installer, but we’re new to the area
and don’t know enough people to ask for references and the yellow pages
only had one name. Do you have any other ideas on how to find a good
installer?
Again, your book is great!! I never
knew the carpet industry was so complex and I’ve learned much. I just wasn’t
prepared for the price quotes from yesterday. Thanks for your time and any
feedback you can provide is greatly appreciated.
Alan’s Answer:
Since you are in a small town, you will probably need to go
to Pittsburgh to find a good deal on carpet. Here is the link to the Super
pages for carpet installers. They are from the Pittsburgh area but this may be
the best way to insure a good install. They may charge a small trip fee to
come to your township but a good installer is critical. Be sure they use a
power-stretcher.
A frieze is a higher priced carpet for sure, but the price
you have been quoted is too high. You could buy wool carpet for that amount. I
found the exact same carpet, Queen San Giovanni online (http://www.flooringwebsite.com/index.html)
for less than $30 per yard, so your price of $63 is way out of line. I would
think you could find it for less than $35 at a retail store. The choice is
yours, assuming you want to find these same carpets or similar carpets for a
better price, you will need to comparison shop at some other stores. Yes, you
have picked top-of-the-line goods but you could save money by not choosing (soft nylons) and avoid
Soft Back type of backing. Softer nylons are priced higher for that very reason. I believe
that a standard nylon carpet is more durable and costs less money.
Soft Back is
not something you really need. If your carpet is installed properly by an
experienced installer then I feel the Soft Back features are pointless. I
figure the installation (including tear out and transitions) and padding
(8-pound 7/16" Rebond pad) should cost you less than $10 per yard total,
so I think you could do the whole job for about $45 per yard if you shop
around. Or you could do it all for a lot less if you just steer clear of the
soft nylons. Prices have been rising, but there are a lot of high priced
retailers who simply charge too much for their products and installation.
Q. What padding do I have?
I am in the process of having a house built and specified a
number of upgrades including 8 LB pad. Unfortunately, many of
the upgrades were missed during construction and I had to
identify the errors. I am now wondering if the pad installed
under the carpet is the 8 LB that I specified. I have a sample
that I retrieved from the left over rebond pad scraps. Is there
an easy way to determine if the pad used is 8 LB versus 6 LB
rebond pad?
Alan’s Answer:
While there is a mathematical formula that pad manufacturers
use for determining the density of carpet pad, determining the pad
density of a particular padding can very difficult for consumers
to calculate accurately without having something similar to
compare it to. With a pad sample in hand, you could visit a local
carpet retailer and take a look at their in-stock 6 and 8 pound
pad samples. A visit to Home Depot or Lowe’s would do nicely.
They have various rolls of pad displayed down their carpet isles
that you could use for simple comparison purposes. The pressure or
resistance you observe when you squeeze padding between your thumb
and index finger best determines density values. A 6-pound pad is
easier to flatten than is an 8 pound pad and the difference will
be noticeable. Remember, density is not the same as thickness. All
padding comes in many thickness, from 1/4" to 9/16".
Thickness has nothing to do with density. Not all carpet pad is
created equal. Often retailers will say it is 8 pound when it is
actually 6 or 7 pound. Some so-called 6-pound padding is really
only 5.5 pound density. It is a tough world out there. Even if a
full roll of pad is clearly marked on the packaging that it is 8
pound, it may not truly be.
There are a lot of scams and deception
in the world of carpet padding. The old "bait and
switch" trick is one of the most common. They know most
consumers won't know the difference between a 6 pound pad and an 8
pound pad, or a 3/8" thick pad verses a 1/2" thick
pad. ALAN
Q Would a textured Saxony be better than plush for the stairs
and hallways?
We've bought and read your book. Our question is this: we have
hallway and stair areas, and bedrooms to re-carpet. We like
Saxony (about 60 oz, high quality) but our understanding is that
it would be best not to use this on stairs and halls? Is this
right? We don't like frieze or loop construction. Would a
textured Saxony be better than plush for the stairs and
hallways?
Alan’s Answer:
A good quality Saxony would be fine on stairs and hallways, but
I would suggest using an 8 pound pad for better support. There is
not a big difference between plush and Saxony, the key to
longevity is proper installation and maintenance. Before the
carpet is installed, be sure to read the complete warranty
information and follow the regular cleaning and other requirements
that keep your warranty in effect.
Q Best carpet for a wheelchair or walker?
I have a little boy in a wheelchair, the carpet in our home
needs replaced bad. It is around 20 years old. I find it difficult
to push my son’s wheelchair sometimes due to carpet. Our son has
spastic cerebral palsy and he has trouble walking with his walker
due to carpet. What do you suggest? Under the carpet is
particleboard and padding. I even thought about installing
hardwood floors. But we are on a fixed income so what do you
suggest?
Alan’s Answer:
You should consider a commercial-grade "level loop" or "cut
pile" carpet, no pad, just carpet glued directly to the floor. It’s not
very soft underfoot but is easy to clean, durable and is easy to push a
wheelchair around too. The price is reasonable, you could get it all
done for about $10-12 per yard installed for a 20 – 26 ounce level-loop
single-color base grade.
Q Best Padding for Carpet Installed on Cement Slab?
Will most people be happy with a 6lb padding when installing
carpet over a cement slab or should the padding be heavier? We
have been told that the 6lb is top quality and would be fine over
the cement.
Alan’s Answer:
6-pound density is the absolute minimum I would use in your situation. 8-pound density
padding is better for carpet support, which can help your carpet last longer,
provides a higher Rh factor to help keep the room warmer, as well as better
noise reduction. It’s not much more money to switch from a 6-pound to
8-pound density, maybe $1.00 to 1.50 more per sq. yard.
Q Mohawk's Child Proof carpet
I purchased a Mohawk child proof carpet 3 years ago that was
advertised as can even spill bleach on. Yes, you can spill bleach, but the
carpet looks disgusting even after 2 months. It has just flattened out and the
dirt lays on the top, a carpet cleaner said the fibers have broken and cannot
be cleaned. I am looking to replace and was hoping for a suggestion for steps
and bedroom. I do like light colors. I see you say nylon is best so I will go
that route. Also, now that I live here, my bedrooms have large beds and
furniture. How do I replace the carpets now? It would be impossible to the
move king-size bed out.
Alan’s Answer:
I have heard more horror stories about Mohawk's "Child
Proof" carpet than any other specialized carpet style. When you take a
close look at most carpet warranties, you will find that they typically don't
cover things like matting and crushing, which you seem to be victim of. It was
two months before it looked bad? That is a horror Now that you are once again in
the market for carpet for your stairs and bedroom, you have to ask yourself some
questions. Namely, how long do you want this carpet to last and how much are you
willing to spend? Stairs take more of a beating than bedroom carpets do. If you
want to use the same carpet in both areas, you need to buy a carpet that will do
well on the stairs, or buy a cheaper carpet and order enough extra carpet to be
able to replace the carpet on the stairs in 3 to 5 years.
Yes, nylon is the best fiber, hands down. It will wear longer
and look like new longer than any other fiber. But you still need to choose a
style that will tolerate the wear and tear that your stairs require or you will
be replacing the stair carpet too soon. In light of this fact, I suggest you
take a look at frieze styles, and cut Berber styles as an option. Cut Berber is
not a looped carpet like a typical Berber, but is a style that has a speckled
appearance that looks like a Berber but has characteristics of a plush or Saxony.
A cut-Berber with a good tuft twist will do very well on stairs as long as you
use the right pad, and have the carpet installed correctly, as would a good
quality Frieze style. Again Nylon is the fiber of choice, even though it costs a
bit more…and olefin or polyester fibers are definitely out of the question if
you are looking for long term wear and satisfaction.
Q Stairs that are hard to install
Your web-site is very helpful in my carpet search. I live in
a condo with open (floating) steps leading to a loft. How do I know if the
installers will install properly? I know that this is not too common. What
questions should I ask the salesman about carpet installation on these steps?
I am considering Masland Toccare (nylon cut and loop) for these steps and the
whole condo where I live. I have another set of steps that enter from the
ground floor up to the main floor of the condo so I need something that will
wear well as this is the entrance from the outside into my home. The padding suggested was a 3/8" #10 pad. I wanted to use the same carpet
throughout the whole two-bedroom condo. Are there any articles on carpet color and style trends? I don't want to pick
something that is on its way out. Thanks for you help. My dad was a carpet sales rep for my growing up years in
the 60's and 70's but he passed away at age 64 from cancer. I sure could use
his opinion and expertise now!
Alan’s Answer:
Your stairs are called "Hollywood" stairs and require installation by
a well experienced installer. The usual charge is at least $10 per stair to
install them. If they send out an installer without experience with this type of
stairs, then you may not get the installation you deserve. You may not be able
to determine yourself if your stairs are installed correctly. Trust your instincts, if the installer fumbles around and
takes a long time to install them, then perhaps he is not trained to install
this type of stair. Ask him if he is experienced in doing this type of step. Ask him if he knows what these stairs are called, if he doesn't know
the term "Hollywood" then maybe he is not trained in this area. You
need to be firm with the carpet retailer when discussing these stairs. Let them know you will not tolerate having them installed improperly. Let them
know you will have them back re-do the stairs if they are not installed
properly. The padding they suggested is not what I suggest. I suggest a
7/16" thick, 8 pound padding. It meets the Masland guidelines, will feel
better underfoot and have the necessary support for your carpet. I think the pad
they suggested: 3/8" is too thin and 10 pound is too dense. I think you
will like my suggestion better and cost should be comparable. Masland makes very
good carpets. In buying Masland or any other brand carpeting you have certain
rules you must follow in order to maintain your warranty. I have found the
Masland warranty online for you and suggest you read it very carefully. Failure
to comply with these requirements may void your warranty. http://www.maslandcarpets.com/BroadloomWarranty.pdf